Birth Matters Podcast, Ep 137 - Grace and Growth: A Dancer's Path to Motherhood

In this episode, professional dancer and voiceover artist Elisa Toro Franky shares her transformative birth journey with a depth and poetic beauty that makes this conversation truly special. Originally from Bogotá, Colombia, Elisa brings her unique perspective as a performer to the birthing experience, drawing profound connections between dance and labor.

Elisa opens up about her conception journey, including navigating two early miscarriages with wisdom and grace, and how she reframed those experiences to move forward with hope rather than fear. She discusses the intersection of dance and pregnancy, how carrying Luna changed her movement practice, and the vital importance of listening to your body with the same attention dancers bring to their craft.

The heart of the episode explores Elisa's birth story—from declining induction twice while trusting her intuition, to her decision-making around accepting gentle interventions when she felt ready, to the powerful moment of a very quick pushing stage before meeting baby Luna. She shares candidly about finding her birth team at NYU Langone, working with doula Regina, and the great support of having her mother present from Colombia for over two months postpartum.

Throughout the conversation, Elisa weaves in themes of courage, intuition, surrender, and transformation. She speaks eloquently about "becoming the wave" during contractions, navigating the liminal space between her former and new identity, and the essential role of movement and cultural connection in her pregnancy and recovery journey.

This episode will resonate with anyone preparing for birth, especially those interested in the mind-body connection, the power of trusting your intuition, and the transformative nature of becoming a parent.

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Episode Topics:

  • Elisa's background as a professional dancer from Bogotá, Colombia

  • Journey to New York City in 2008 with Dance Theater of Harlem

  • Current work with FJK Dance incorporating Middle Eastern, ballroom, and contemporary styles

  • The connection between dance and birth: dancers as "accurate listeners" of their bodies

  • Navigating two early miscarriages in 2023

  • Choosing an empowering narrative to move forward without prolonged grief

  • Working with Ferny (Fertility New York) clinic and Dr. Alia

  • Comprehensive fertility testing showing no concerns

  • Conceiving in 2024 during a creative period performing opera

  • Waiting three full moons (first trimester) before announcing the pregnancy

  • Choosing NYU Langone for integrated midwife and OB care

  • Finding doula Regina through East River Doula Collective

  • How pregnancy transformed dance practice: increased groundedness and flexibility

  • Discovering new movement qualities through carrying Luna's weight

  • Performing en pointe until December at eight months pregnant

  • Teaching throughout pregnancy to maintain vitality

  • Managing sciatica pain in the final weeks before birth

  • Catching a cold one week before giving birth

  • Declining induction twice while trusting the body's natural labor onset

  • The conversation with a trusted midwife that led to accepting gentle induction

  • Using cervical balloon and medication without needing Pitocin

  • Seeing familiar faces of loved ones reflected in birth team members

  • The Colombian midwife who spoke Spanish and provided cultural connection

  • Using vocalization, singing, and movement to cope with contractions

  • Adopting different positions including all fours with doula support

  • The concept of "becoming the wave" from the book Transformed by Birth

  • Mythological frameworks: Artemis, Persephone, and Inanna's journey to the underworld

  • Experiencing "labor land" - the liminal space between exhaustion and pain

  • Taking a low-dose epidural while still feeling fully present

  • The pushing stage: only 12 minutes with full awareness

  • Brief mention of forceps that ultimately weren't needed

  • The surreal moment of meeting Luna and questioning if it was real

  • Postpartum healing: two-centimeter tear with stitches

  • Continued sciatica and pelvic floor recovery

  • Establishing breastfeeding and managing initial discomfort

  • Luna's high feeding demand and supplementing with goat milk formula

  • Mother Consuelo's support from Colombia for two and a half months

  • Sleep rotation strategy: alternating nights with family support

  • Ancestral wisdom on baby care, routines, and distinguishing day from night

  • Raising Luna bilingually with emphasis on preserving Spanish

  • The importance of movement in postpartum recovery

  • Cultural loss when Latin American children don't learn Spanish

  • Final wisdom on courage, intuition, and trusting the body

  • Surrendering to the process rather than trying to control it

  • The transformative death of former identity and birth of new self

  • Open-mindedness in accepting that each birth journey is unique

Interview Transcript

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